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Old 12-26-2008, 06:31 AM   #1
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Advanced and Conceptual Physics

The big secret behind the inner workings of my head is constant analyzation, such as the insanity that I was reading a non-fiction on conceptual and advanced physics at midnight. However, 27 pages into the book, in an academic thought train on Invisibility, I realized how amazing Physics was, in comparision to what I want to be, a Civil Engineer. (Watch out, I'ma building your houses in 4 years )

Either way, it started with a discussion on light, which is the velocity of a fluctuation between magnetic and electric fields, produced through Maxwell's 8 fundamental differential equations. From there, we need to look at refractive indexes, and the properties of refraction. Vacuum's reflect light at 1.0000, Air is 1.00003, and a crystaline structure has a refractive index of 2.3 (I only knew the refractive index of a vacuum off the top of my head >.>). Either way, no matter what your looking at, we can create pathways in circuitry that span a total of 30nm (150 atoms across. 150.NOT 150,000,000; .150*10^3). Also, there has been great progress in a field called metamaterials, where we have created "impossible" materials that refract light negatively, or to say, its pretty much bouncing off or deflecting around the structure. The way its described in the book is that its similar to the way water runs around a boulder in a river, or the aerodynamics of a car, the smoothest possible flow of light possible.

However, we must have a refracting surface 10x smaller than the distance of the light wavelength. This means that we need to create things in a 5-15nm range, which is probably about 15-45atoms wide. On a relative scale, thats remarkable. Continuing on that train of thought, the author then pointed out that we could therefore use light to create currents in electricity, and use common metals instead of powerful conductors like copper, because we're simply aligning atoms in a rhythm, and then dispersing the information of the previous wavelength into the new one. Which is even better because we're going to run out of silicon in the next 50 years, which would mean no more Fiesta.

However, with the ability to conduct an electrical current in a miniscule computer, a proverbial galore of technologies could be invented. Since the standard processor would be smaller than your thumb, we could have bracelets and headsets that would be a visual HUD. While some sort of tactile "typing surface" would have to be implemented, extendable windows made of a liquid that could display images could be a headset, with a cord running through the body or up the back of a shirt unobtrusively, would create a connection between the bracelet and the screen.

Going back on topic, we could use streamlined light in order to have light "bend" around an object, which would render it, effectively, invisible to the naked eye. Since we have already developed techniques to create invisibility, using plastics, resins, and other materials, we could effectively mask an object from all forms of detectability. Which is scary that you could have someone stalking you with no ability to be found. The potential rammifications and positives about this technology are astounding, and the process for making them is no harder than making a processor today.
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Old 12-26-2008, 01:14 PM   #2
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While it's true that we can make everything that's needed to make someone invisible, I disagree that it's as easy as making a processor. Based on the "invisibility cloak" concept in the Harry Potter series, scientists are working on creating precisely that. Something mobile which bends light around itself. So far, they haven't exactly been extremely successful, so I don't see how it's as easy as a processor.


BTW, the plural of index is indices. ^^
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Old 12-26-2008, 04:57 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by Vasu View Post
While it's true that we can make everything that's needed to make someone invisible, I disagree that it's as easy as making a processor. Based on the "invisibility cloak" concept in the Harry Potter series, scientists are working on creating precisely that. Something mobile which bends light around itself. So far, they haven't exactly been extremely successful, so I don't see how it's as easy as a processor.


BTW, the plural of index is indices. ^^
The technology is a small as one, or at least what they have made. They're having problems creating flexible material that is able to bend all the pigments of natural light around an object, while most of the materials made in the bending process have been made using processor making technology.

Yay for carrying on an intellectual thought process at 1AM.
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Old 12-26-2008, 08:41 PM   #4
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Though because your bending light, and not giving matter the property to have light pass through it, you will never be truly invisible. Not to mention the cloak would probably be heavy as hell and hold alot of heat in. So you couldnt stay under it for too long or you would suffocate.
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Old 12-27-2008, 02:12 AM   #5
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its not that light isn't passing through it, as so much as the refractive index is negative, so it bends around it.

They also said a "Harry Potter-esque" cloak would be too heavy, cylindrical, and impractical for hundreds of years.

the other problem is that you couldn't see out. xD
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Any physics book is a nice book, particularly the ones written by theoretical physicists. In fact, it's their job: sitting down and thinking up things, then recording them and collaborating with the experimental physicists to test out new ideas and hopefully discover something novel and useful.

My Physics professor is involved in quantum computing development and he showed us a concept video of the mechanism of such a machine:
http://www.iop.org/EJ/mmedia/1367-2630/10/12/125005/
(Only fragments of the video are released to the public. We were lucky to see the full version.)

It's simply remarkable.

I'm intrigued by the fact that while we don't really know what it is, we use it extensively to accommodate our life. For example, we have no idea what precisely an electron is (e.g., its spin is an obvious given but mysterious nonetheless), we still refer to it in texts that explain its applications. The same goes for light. In the book mentioned, the author refers to it as a wave but it can also act as a particle, hence its dual nature.

This bit interests me: aligned atoms received stimulus, thus vibrate rhythmically which affect the light 'wave' that acts as the current? or did you mean the aligned atoms vibrate upon receiving the light stimulus and these by themselves affect the next set of atoms (recall matter waves concept) in order to transmit the information encoded in the stimulus wavelength?

Sorry I'm a bit unclear about that part. Could you explain it a bit more? =]
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Quoting the book here:

Originally Posted by Physics of the Impossible
The goal of plasmaonics is to "squeeze" light so that one can manipulate objects at the nanoscale, espicially on the surface of metals. The reason metals conduct electricity is that electrons are loosely bound to metal atoms, so they can freely move along the surface of the metal lattice. The electricity flowing in your home represents the smooth flow of these loosely bound electrons on the metal surface. But under certain conditions, when a light beam collides with the metal surface, the electrons can vibrate in unison with the original light beam, creating a wavelike motions of the electrons on the metal surface (called plasmons), and these wavelike motions beat in unison with the original light beam. More important, one can "squeeze" these plasmons so that they have the same frequency as the orignal beam(and hence carry the same information) but have a much smaller wavelength. In principle, one might then cram these squeezed waves into nanowires. As with photonic crystals, the ultimate goal of plasmonics is to create computer chips that compute using light, rather than electricity."
Enjoy your light reading for the day. This is from a segement entitled "Invisibility via plasmonics"
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Thanks for that.

It makes much more sense now. I was wondering what was meant by "aligning atoms in a rhythm" to create a current. Seems we use the electrons after all in this specific description. By atoms, you probably meant the quasiparticles, aka. plasmons, that result from the excitation by light.
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Yeah, your right, I typed that up at 1:00AM in a vigourous intellectual frenzy >

No heed to the actual terminology I needed.
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